Podcast: Athlete Driven Success with Danny Camargo

Danny Camargo leads one of the largest and most successful weightlifting programs in the United States. Himself a former international-level lifter, Danny’s Team Oly Concepts is a major force for the sport here and abroad. He’s also gained an increased level of recognition for coaching Mattie Rogers, a World Championships medalist and one of America’s most successful elite weightlifters this millennium.

But after nearly three decades in the sport of weightlifting, Danny Camargo isn’t done leaving his mark. And his position today resulted from a major life decision that, had it gone a different way, could have put Danny’s livelihood in jeopardy.

In this episode of The BarBend Podcast, Danny and host David Thomas Tao dive deep on the sport’s growth, the myth of instant gratification, and what Danny thinks most are getting wrong about athlete-driven training. (Hint: The phrase itself can trigger debate in many weightlifting circles.)

We also touch on the pros and cons of remote/satellite coaching and Danny’s hopes and trepidations for the future of the sport.

In this episode of The BarBend Podcast, guest Danny Camargo and host David Thomas Tao discuss:

  • Danny’s background in weightlifting and transition from athlete to coach (2:45)
  • Why Danny thinks it’s so challenge to mix coaching and competing at the same time (5:00)
  • The early days of Team Oly Concepts and how Danny built his team (7:50)
  • Overcoming doubt and moving to coaching as a full-time career (12:15)
  • Why Danny coached for FREE for so long, and how that impacted his ability to become a full-time coach (14:50)
  • The trend — among athletes AND coaches — of impatience for recognition in weightlifting; Danny talks about his “old school” perspective here (16:13)
  • Online vs. in-person coaching (19:35)
  • Athlete-driven training and the controversial nature of that term — misconceptions, myths, and Danny’s thoughts (24:23)
  • An example of athlete-driven training/success in action (28:40)

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Transcription

David TaoDavid Tao

Welcome to the “BarBend” podcast where we talk to top athletes, coaches, influencers, and minds from around the world of strength sports. Presented by barbend.com.

Today, I’m talking to world-renowned weightlifting coach Danny Camargo. Danny is perhaps most widely known for coaching top American weightlifters like Mattie Rogers. Today, he runs one of the largest and most successful weightlifting programs in the country.

Let’s go way back to get some context. Danny is a former international-level weightlifter who spent nearly two decades building his skills as a coach. That’s culminated in the growth of Team Oly Concepts — the gym, team, coaching network, and online coaching system Danny runs out of Florida. Danny’s approach to coaching melds tradition with his own lessons and experience around the sport.

Danny is passionate about training lifters for long-term success and building proficiency over the years of training. As you’ll learn from my recording, he thinks a big pitfall of the sport today, especially in the United States, is the number of coaches and athletes who expect fast results without perspective on what progress really takes.

Danny is also a big proponent of something called athlete-driven training or athlete-driven success, a topic that’s caused a bit of a stir in coaching circles. Find out how Danny leverages this tactic in his own coaching and why he thinks these concepts get misinterpreted so often.

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Today, on the BarBend podcast, I’m talking to a friend of mine. He is a weightlifting coach and athlete. That is, Danny Camargo perhaps better known as the mastermind behind Team Oly Concepts.

Danny, thanks so much for joining us today.

Danny CamargoDanny Camargo

Thank you for having me back. It’s been a while, man.

David TaoDavid Tao

 [laughs] It’s been a little bit since we’ve been on the mic together. Never in a podcast. Normally, just at events.

Danny CamargoDanny Camargo

Yeah, usually. It’s always a pleasure, man. Thank you for having me.

David TaoDavid Tao

Danny, we’ll dive right into it. Folks might know you best for being a coach and for the fantastic program you’ve grown. I was going to say throughout Florida but really, it’s national and even international now over the past decade or so.

Give us a little bit of background as to how you got started in the sport of weightlifting? And when you made that transition to being more of a coach, not that you’re not still an athlete. I know you’re still competing pretty regularly.

Danny CamargoDanny Camargo

Not as regularly and I’m just doing it for fun with the Masters group now that I’m getting old. I can do that. A lot of people might not know that I was once an athlete. That’s where my start was, 29 years ago, total. I was a youth lifter and I was blessed to have some amazing coaches. I got to an elite junior level, elite senior level before retiring. I was biologically young. I was 21 when I hung it up. It was a wonderful career.

I actually made a…took me about a year of some soul searching. I made a pretty distinct transition to coaching. There wasn’t any blurred lines. I say that because you might have some people listening to this and they are athletes and are interested in coaching. Maybe they’re thinking about it. Maybe they dabbled a little bit and they like to do it. Which is great. I think the more coaches, the more athletes, the more competitions. I’m OK with that.

But I urge, at least in my gym with the athletes who I work with, make sure it’s something you want to commit to. Balancing both, I don’t think I would ever have been able to do it. I do it now, that’s because my primary job is to coach and secondarily, maybe I will do some competitions as a Master. It was a very distinct line. I walked away, I retired, I became a coach and I’ve not turned back since.

David TaoDavid Tao

Let’s talk about that line. That’s something I’ve definitely heard differing opinions on. Obviously everyone approaches a sport a little differently. They have their own experiences. You talk about that pretty distinct line for you between being an athlete, then you transitioned. Here it is, line in the sand, you are now primarily a coach.

Is that more of a time-commitment thing, or like a mental capacity thing? Are there other factors involved there that make it much easier for you to say, “This is what I am now” as opposed to playing that balancing act?

Danny CamargoDanny Camargo

Mentally emotional. Time commitment? This day and age with remote coaching being a possibility, an opportunity for a lot of people. I think it’s less than a time-commitment issue. I think it’s focused, dialed in, energy, emotion.

I really don’t know how athletes, whether they are Masters or senior level, are also coaches. They are balancing in the same tournament, the same weekend. “I have to go to such-and-such weigh-ins. I have to coach my athlete two or three sessions. Then I got to put on my own singlet and compete. Bless those people. Good for them.

I see it happen, and there’s some relative success with that. That’s great. They’re having a good time. Good for them. I don’t know that that would work for me long term. I would like to think I maybe even give the advice to anyone that’s in that kind of purgatory, [laughs] like in-between.

Pick one that means most to you at the time, and devote more time into that and energy to it. Understanding that whatever is coming second, it’s OK, and let that be second.

I only say that, because how do other athletes feel that their coach is wrapped up in their own performances, in their own athletic either training or competitions. Are you really coaching if you’re half-minded into it, because you’re worried about your own six by six performance?

David TaoDavid Tao

That’s definitely something. Having observed you coach at a lot of different levels now — local meets, national meets, international meets — I’ve seen you at all three and even tiers in different categories within those.

You are a coach who definitely you wear your emotions a bit more on your sleeve than some. You’re not stoic, arms crossed, head nod, head shake. You definitely come from a, I’d say, a very engaged, very energetic school of coaching. Is that something that you developed over time or that’s just how you’ve been?

Danny CamargoDanny Camargo

No. How I’ve been, I’d like to think that there are times I’m more stoic. I think the more pressure on the line, the more introverted I actually become.

Outside of those moments, I’m definitely animated. I’m engaged with the athletes. I’m talkative if they need me to be. If they need me to shut up, I’ll do that too. [laughs] It’s really whatever the athlete wants.

I do believe in high energy, but that came to me naturally. That’s my style. I’ve had to work on being cool and being reserved when I think it’s best. That’s actually a skill I continue to still work on.

David TaoDavid Tao

You started coaching. You hung up the shoes as an athlete primarily at age 21. You got into coaching within a year or two after that. Coaching wasn’t always your full-time thing, and I know Camargo Oly Concepts, now, Team Oly Concepts, is something that has been built over a long period of time.

When did you get the inspiration? Why did you think it was a good idea to start your own team? Tell us about the early days of that development.

Danny CamargoDanny Camargo

I started coaching around 22. I was almost 23. I started doing so for my first developmental coach. A lot I take from him now. He has since passed away. When he did, I took over for that same club. In fact, I’m still the head of that club.

It’s changed names a few times, which is what you’re asking now. I’ve changed with the times, but that’s how I began. That’s where I began as an assistant — volunteering. By the first seven years of my coaching, it was purely out of love. It was a hobby. I would spend money to coach.

My living was I was a police officer. That was the profession I got into. In fact, growing up as a young lifter, almost every coach had another profession. I don’t think back then there was any “full-time weightlifting coaches.”

There was no such thing as the weightlifting coach profession that there is today that I’ve had to figure out, because no one’s written the book on this yet.

I said this recently to a group of students in a course that we’re living through an evolution of the sport of weightlifting. Though I’m flattered to get a lot of questions and I mentor coaches and they ask me for advice, I tell them I don’t really know the final answer, because no one knows the right or wrong way to do this weightlifting coaching profession.

We are currently, right now, writing it out. We’re figuring it out now. No one’s come up with the actual solution to do it. I can only tell you what I’m doing. What I’ve succeeded at and failed at. Back then, it was just a weightlifting club.

Then over the years, I have started seeing the demand grow for weightlifting. This evolution I just mentioned started showing its signs. I jumped on it, because I have something to say. It’s about time. I lived through the dark ages of weightlifting.

I know what it’s like when no one cares about weightlifting. I know what it’s like when you tell the layman, “I am a weightlifter,” and the first question is, “How much do you bench press?” “I don’t bench,” I would tell them.

Now, it’s different. There are more people wanting to do this. The more that happened, the more I adjusted. Maybe grow my program or started this education platform, which was Oly Concepts.

I liked writing tutorials. I liked giving people tips, social media, free tips. You don’t have to pay for it. Love doing seminars. I like teaching. I like the audience, because I just feel like there’s people out there that want to learn.

Who else to do it except those who have been doing it, those who are growing now in the sport and getting more and more educated and getting more competent? It’s information sharing. I enjoyed it. Then Oly Concepts was created.

I ended up changing my club name to match the company name. My club should represent this business of mine, which ended up now being my gym. Oly Concepts is a gym. It is also an education platform. It also happens to be the name of my club representing it.

David TaoDavid Tao

What was it like? This is shortly after we started working together on some event broadcasting. It was not too long after you made the transition from splitting your time between being a police officer and a weightlifting coach/entrepreneur, you name it, to weightlifting full time.

What did that feel like? Did it create any sort of existential crisis or questions? Was it a tough transition, moving out of a day job you’d had for a while?

Danny CamargoDanny Camargo

Yes. Scary. That’s one word. What’d it feel like? I was fearful, fearful of losing all that I had built. It was 13 years of law enforcement. That’s half a pension. I was fearful that the business plan of the sport of weightlifting would not work, that this demand that I had recognized would fail and fall, that it was just a trend, that the bubble would burst.

But once an athlete, always an athlete. For the coaches out there that might be in a similar scenario, my advice to them is like, “It’s going to be scary. Be OK with the fact that it’s scary.” The doubt that I had when I made the transition, actually that doubt is what inspired me. The “maybe,” that got me kind of a…Call it a challenge, if you will.

I know we’re playing with my livelihood here, but I realized that any move I made, which was that one, ultimately wouldn’t be fatal. It could be something I could reverse. It would’ve been a struggle. It would’ve been a problem.

Ultimately, I went in going, “OK. This may not work,” but because of that, that’s why I’m giving it a shot. I am inspired. I am motivated by this doubt. I want to see if I can do it because it is what I wanted. Right? What I wanted to do, the idea of being a full-time weightlifting coach in the private sector was really, really exciting.

I ended up loving the idea, the challenge, and the aspirations more than I hated the fear. That make any sense? That’s why I made the move. It wasn’t shortly thereafter that the successes that I was looking for began to show up. I’ve never turned back. I’m here.

David TaoDavid Tao

You’ve mentioned earlier, we’re in this evolution stage of weightlifting. The book on how to be a full-time weightlifting coach in the private sector, it’s not fully written yet. Maybe you’ll be the one to write it. Maybe you’ll have the intro chapter, whatever it is. What has surprised you most in the years since you’ve made that move to being a full-time weightlifting coach?

Danny CamargoDanny Camargo

That it’s still happening.

Yeah, that it’s still happening. That’s a wonderful question. There’s two, if I can answer that way. The number one biggest surprise that I’ve had is that I, or future coaches, would have to and get away with looking at weightlifting as a business. That doesn’t make sense to someone listening, because isn’t that I was doing in the transition?

Yes, but I come from the old school where you didn’t charge anybody. For the first seven years, David, of my coaching was at a high school after-school program for free. No one paid for it. It was a hobby. I was, back then, aspiring to be an international coach, funding myself to do so. It was out of good healthy pride, not ego but pride. Proud to be a weightlifting coach, proud to be an American.

That was all that I thought it would be. When I had to make a transition, I knew I have to make it a business to some extent. It was nerve-wracking to begin charging and charging what I do now.

I think 10 years ago, you would have told me I would be able to charge what I do now. I have advice that I’m still cheap compared to other programs. That might be the case. I carried a little bit of guilt, but it’s OK now.

That was the biggest surprise that I had was, “OK, well, I can treat this like a consultation maybe.” I don’t have to lose the tradition of the spirit of what I’m doing, which is purely out of love. That’s been the biggest surprise.

My other one that I didn’t see coming is this trend that I’m seeing, not only in athletes but with coaches as well, is that impatience for recognition. Back in the day, athletes would enter the sport. It was just understood from day one, it’s going to take me a while to get good. You just got that.

Coaches would begin coaching weightlifting. They, too, had that attitude, “Wow. It’s going to take me a while. It’s going to take me some time,” and yet no one left the sport. Just didn’t.

Now, I don’t see that. It’s a little scary. I didn’t know that this was coming. Whatever the reason is — that I can tell you what I believe it’s coming from — but athletes are now joining and entering weightlifting. It’s unfortunate, but they want overnight success. They want the recognition. They want the records. They want the medals. They want US teams.

Coaches, unfortunately, I’ve been seeing a little bit of that as well. Coaches want the praise and recognition of being a great coach, and they want it quicker than I believe is reasonable. That was a second surprise that I saw.

Now, I’m not saying that it’s everybody, but I get that. Athletes join my gym or my remote training program, and I can tell right away how long they’ll stick around with me. It’s only because they’re looking for something overnight. They’re looking for that quick success.

Whether they find it with me or not, they’re jumping to online program and to online programs, coach to coach, gym to gym because they’re not getting the fast enough results. That’s been a huge, huge surprise. It wasn’t like that back then.

David TaoDavid Tao

Do you think that’s partially because people coming into the sport now have been exposed to weightlifting at a much higher popularity level than it was 10 years ago, 20 years ago, 29 years ago when you were first getting into the sport?

Even 10 years ago, if you got into weightlifting, as far as medals to get, records to rake, recognition to get, what recognition? There was a small national weightlifting community, but it wasn’t big on the social media. Weightlifters didn’t have hundreds of thousands or millions of followers.

There wasn’t that engagement. Do you think that the growth of the sport has made it easier for people to expect more immediate gratification?

Danny CamargoDanny Camargo

Possibly. On top of that, the opportunities. There’s more funding in the sport of weightlifting now than there was before. There are stipends that USAW hands out, which I think is wonderful. Please don’t stop. That money didn’t exist when I was an athlete or when I coached athletes at those levels. Yeah, social media has something to do with it.

David, it could be perhaps, the majority of the athletes entering weightlifting are transferring or transitioning from a different sport where they may have had some successes there whether it’s football, whether it’s track, there’s CrossFit. There’s so many athletes we’re getting from other sports, which is wonderful. I promote that.

Maybe, because where they were at. They’re entering weightlifting and they have a different expectation. I can’t say with absolute certainty where it’s coming from. I hope that settles out eventually.

David TaoDavid Tao

Something you mentioned a little earlier — I do want to talk about it because it’s difficult to talk about the growth of the sport and trends in weightlifting without at least mentioning — this online versus in-person coaching.

You can go online and find hundreds — that’s no exaggeration — hundreds of different online coaching programs at a range of costs, from a range of different people, range of experience levels.

Online programming or remote coaching is something that is a part of Oly Concepts now. Was that something that you were ever reticent or hesitant to introduce? How has that changed your approach to coaching and your role as a coach?

Danny CamargoDanny Camargo

All right. I’ll go with the first one. Extremely hesitant. I fought it for about two years when it was first introduced to me as an idea.

David TaoDavid Tao

Really? You just refused?

Danny CamargoDanny Camargo

Absolutely refused. Again, I’m a bit of a traditionalist yet I am happy to be open-minded about the future and the new. That’s what has helped with my ability to make…All my decisions have been perfect.

Point is, I don’t think that I’m that much of a traditionalist where I can’t let go of some of that or I am close-minded to the future. I’m not very, very open-minded about that. Back when I fought it, I would get advice all the time. I would see it occurring in other programs, other coaches. They’re making the killing, perhaps, financially doing well.

I still would say no. I would say, “That’s not real coaching.” That might have been my traditional as my old-school mentality. I folded my philosophy and that has changed. I am not too proud to say that about other aspects of my career as well. My philosophy changed. I don’t feel that way anymore.

Here was the deal-breaker for me. Though, I would have gotten approached a few times, “Do you do remote coaching?” I would say, “I’m sorry. I don’t offer that.” I ended up folding because I realized that there are some athletes out there absolutely alone.

They’re in garages by themselves. They’re in gyms that don’t offer what weightlifting means. They don’t have anyone. Maybe, I can help those people and so I opened myself up to remote coaching in a pilot program. I’ll do on a case-by-case basis.

Then, I did start to help people. They would send me videos and I would give them programming. Their response to what I was giving them was very similar to the face-to-face every day I was getting without my athletes. The thank yous, they would light up. They would show me videos that were improved. I said, “OK, maybe this is kind of real coach.”

I folded. It is still not the largest part of what I do. It is actually the smallest service I offer as far as revenue and time commitment. I still feel that nothing can ever beat in-person training daily. However, I do think, remote training is great for those who really have nothing else. That tends to be the athletes who I have and done pretty well with them.

Having said that, I still struggle with it because there’s only so many videos I can see. There’s only so many emails we can go back and forth. I look forward to the athletes who I have, remote, seeing them either fly to me and we spend a few days together. If I’m in the region already with other spiritual seminars or some other competition I’m doing or we meet for tournaments, that’s really where I look forward to with all of my satellites.

I’ll conclude this by saying that when it comes to all of this, I don’t offer remote training in its tradition sense where I’m writing workouts for a complete stranger I’ll never meet.

I refer to my service as satellite coaching and these are my satellite athletes because I do require some face time. If someone contacts me, wants remote training, and I’ll never ever meet them I tend not to acquire those people. It’s always someone who throughout the year I will see at some point in time because I’m the coach. I need to spend time with them.

David TaoDavid Tao

That certainly makes a lot of sense and I think can at least make up for some of the deficiencies that people think exist, believe exist, or point to when it comes to remote coaching. I do like that reframing.

On the topic of coaching techniques, coaching strategies, something that I know that you’re really, really big on and increasing so in the last few years is athlete driven training. I’ve heard that from a few people. I’ve heard that from you, I’ve heard that at competitions.

I’ve heard it in warm up rooms, training halls at national competitions, and athletes talking about it. I’m hearing a bunch of different things, which tells me there are a lot of misconceptions out there. There are a lot of different opinions on what athlete driven coaching means. That’s something that I’ve also heard some coaches — I won’t name any names — guffaw about when an athlete says it or when the topic comes up. They’re like, “That’s undermining my job.” Maybe that’s the belief.

What is athlete-driven coaching mean to you, and why has it grown to become a greater part of the strategies that you use in developing athletes?

Danny CamargoDanny Camargo

I’ll tell you what it means to me. I can only speak for myself and how I view this concept.

It is not the athlete can come and do what they want. That would truly undermine my coaching. It is not they run the show. I do what they say. I don’t foster an authoritative coaching style or dynamic between me and my athletes either, so it’s not that. Here’s what it means to me. Day one, a beginner starts, they have no clue what’s going on. They have to be and will be very coach dependent. I like that.

That is where I can teach. I love working with beginners because everything I do works. Everything you do is going to make them better. There’s a lot of troubleshooting going on, but there are so many similarities between beginners. It’s a lot of fun at that time. Now, they move on into intermediate levels and that’s around when I expect the paradigm to shift slightly where I need more feedback from them because every body is different.

I do teach very early on in a weightlifter’s career a little bit independence. That doesn’t mean I’m no longer needed. That’s not what I’m saying. I am saying self-awareness, self-discovery. In the future, which is where I’m going to end here in my definition of athlete-driven training, I am going to need them to know themselves well enough to help me help them. I hope that makes sense.

That is the reason I believe in this concept so much because that will be the deal maker years in the future. Not so much at the time.

When an athlete performs a lift and I say, “Great. This is what I just saw. What did that feel like, athlete?” They go, “I don’t know.” We’re not there yet.

But if I can ask that question and they can really critically analyze what just happened, “Well I feel like this but I feel unbalanced here, and it feels like I’m losing tension somewhere.” Good, because that tells me they are just becoming self-aware. All advanced-level, elite-level athletes have a really, really good sense of what they need. You should — I did — take that to a professional level, a team sports even.

These athletes know themselves by then. They know what works for them. They know what doesn’t with their thought patterns, physically speaking. The coach needs to listen, and my programs need to be based on what that athlete feels they need.

Now, there are some times when you have to intervene and go, “Listen. I know you feel this way, but I don’t think so. I think you need you to push through this one or I need you to dial back.”

As long as that trust is there, it becomes a true teamwork scenario for the athlete. Not just a beginner, where you make all the calls. You can make all the decisions.

I’ll end here. Here’s a perfect example. Advanced athlete comes in and sees that I’ve written hang snatch for the day. They’ll say to me, “Hey, Danny. So you wrote hang snatch. Could I…” It’s always under my consultation.

Just because they are calling some of the shots, that doesn’t mean, again, I’m not needed. “Danny, I would like to switch this block work” “All right. Why, Athlete?” They’ll give you a specific reason why.

“Well, I feel that I just haven’t had it in a while. And if I can do this work off the blocks, I will feel certain parts. And I think I could pull more, and it will transfer to my snatch more.” “You’re absolutely right today. We can switch. Go for it.” You will watch and coach, because I’m still there.

Let’s take that same scenario to a beginner. A beginner walks in, “Coach, you wrote hangs. Can I do blocks?” “Sure, Beginner. Why?” or, “Intermediate. Why?” “Well, I saw it on YouTube the other day, and it looked really cool.” “OK, yeah. No. No. Please follow what I have written.” I hope that makes sense.

David TaoDavid Tao

It does. The question I have — and you definitely did address it in that answer and maybe I’m biased — weightlifting athletes can get in their own heads quite a bit.

Now, that’s true for athletes in any sport and particularly in any strength sport, but weightlifters can maybe be especially neurotic sometimes. That’s not an insult, but weightlifters analyze and analyze and analyze and sometimes overanalyze. Then you get paralysis by analysis.

What are some strategies you use when a weightlifter maybe gets in their own head a little bit to reel them back, to simplify a little bit? I do think that that’s a hump that all weightlifters come through in their development is that they start to overanalyze, and that starts to hurt their development. Someone has to reel them back.

Danny CamargoDanny Camargo

Then you go back to being the coach, calling the shots more. It’s really that simple. I’ve gotten that question before. How do you know when you’re there with the athlete? You know when you’re there with the athlete when you coach your professional opinion as they’re overthinking.

“OK. Hey, listen. I just heard you talk for the last five minutes, Athlete, and you know what I’m thinking?” “Tell me. Tell me.” You’re going to say, “You’re overthinking. Let me take control of this now.” They’re going to do it. They’re going to thank you for it.

When they are not overthinking and they’re going, “Hey, this is how I feel because of this,” it is your opinion as a coach to say, “You know what? I agree with you.” Or, “I disagree with you. Let’s just go in on it.”

I guess when I say athlete-driven training, it’s really more like athlete-driven success than it is the training. In 99.999 percent of every scenario where I have fostered this self-awareness and this self-discovery, it’s always led into this scenario, where in daily training they’re taking my program.

To be honest, most of the time they follow it. They go with it, but when they want to make that adjustment, we discuss it. I usually allow them to, because I’m watching someone get themselves better for what they need.

But at competitions, I own it all, and they trust me 100 percent. In fact, most of them don’t even want to make decisions in a competition and say, “Coach, I trust you. Just make the call. Put me in the best position to win.”

That is where I use strategy. I am reading the athlete. I’m reading the competition, making my decisions for them on their behalf. They go with it, and it’s not athlete-driven competition. If it was athlete-driven competition, they’d go to max every single time.

They don’t even see some of the stuff that I have to deal with on their behalf. I want to make sure that people understand that difference.

David TaoDavid Tao

Danny, we like to keep these pretty tight. I have to say we’ve covered a lot of topics and especially the topic of coaching and your evolution there extraordinarily in depth. I appreciate that.

If people want to follow along with what you’re doing, with what Oly Concepts is doing, with what Team Oly Concepts is doing, what’s the best place to find you and your work online?

 

Danny CamargoDanny Camargo

Easiest thing, one place. URL — www.olyconcepts.com. From there, they can contact my gym. From there, they can inquire about my services.

From there, they can watch some of my videos, some of the things I offer, information on my seminar, can contact me directly. Anyone can get ahold of me. I’m very accessible. To my detriment, I’m very accessible.

David TaoDavid Tao

 [laughs] I can personally attest to that.

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Danny, thank you so much for joining us. Danny Camargo, really looking forward to speaking with you again in the future. We’ll run into each other again I’m sure at a national meet in the near, near future. Danny, thanks so much for joining us.

Danny CamargoDanny Camargo

Thank you very much.